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Competitive tests (Macmillan, Olympiad, NTSE, ASSET)-info. and questions

Sep 2, 2009 8:52 AM Share

 

Recently our family got exposed to the wonderful (I say) or slightly wicked (my husband says) world of “competitive” tests like the IAIS, Olympiad etc. and wanted to share our learnings and get some more insights, tips and gyan from fellow parents. Many of the websites have sample test questions that you can expose your kids to. Btw, most of these tests prefer calling themselves diagnostic tests because they help parents and schools better understand how the kids apply knowledge and their skills and development process.

 

Our journey so far

 

Being the liberal non-pushy parent, wasn’t going to take these tests as seriously but when I took a look at their sample questions of the 3rd grade IAIS test, I was very impressed with the way they encouraged thinking, problem–solving, reasoning, conceptual understanding versus the current rote based learning. I still find many questions tough since it is a different way of thinking. For example, say in the Science test, all the facts and data are given, but it is how you reason, think, interpret the data and come to conclusions. Amazing. Very impressive.

 

Then, I came across other parents who were ordering the sample test papers. So some of us parents teamed up and bought the papers and made copies. Our daughter was not able to complete all the practice tests at home. But we plan to do them the year around. Great way to introduce conceptual (alternative, lateral) thinking that is lacking in the current curriculum and the teaching methods. Oh and she loves doing them. Initially, we were lost. But I sat with her with all the questions, even the ones she got right, and slowly we understood the pattern and are getting better and enjoying.

 

Our third grader took the IAIS test in Bangalore through her school. In fact from grades 3-5, this test is compulsory this year for all the students. The school also gave a schedule of other tests they offered this year like the Olympiad and NTSE.

 

What is common about these tests?

 

  • They stress on application of knowledge rather than knowledge per se.
  • Focus on reasoning, thinking, interpretation of data.
  • Standardised tests.
  • Objective, multiple choice
  • Offered in different subjects depending on the test (English, Math, Science, Computers.
  • Schools offer different tests. Some offer IAIS and some ASSET. Some kids enroll individually for these tests if the school does not offer them
  • These tests are made appropriate for the Indian context to some extent Many of these tests provide schools diagnostics and metrics about how students did in general and how to improve.

 

IAIS (International Assessment for Indian Schools)

  • AKA (also known as) Macmillan or University of South of Wales, Australia Test
  • http://iais.emacmillan.com/
  • Dates: Aug 28, 29 2009
  • Subjects English, Computer Science, Math, Science
  • Classes 3-12
  • One of the toughest tests in the spectrum

 

 Asset testing

  • ASSESSMENT OF SCHOLASTIC SKILLS THROUGH EDUCATIONAL TESTING (ASSET)
  • http://www.ei-india.com/about-asset/how-do-i-prepare-for-asset/
  •  
  • Core Subjects: English, Maths and Science
  • Optional Subjects: Social Studies and Hindi
  • Based on the Indian curriculum (CBSE, ICSE and state boards)
  • Detailed Skill-wise feedback with customized letter for every student
  • Conducted in the school during school hours
  • Schools choose to take the test in Summer (July-August) or Winter (December)
  • Similar to IAIS. But supposed to be slightly easier.

 

Olympiads

  • http://www.silverzone.org/
  • Grade 1-12
  • Around Oct 6th
  • Our school offers only the Informatics Olympiad (computers + general reasoning).
  • But they offer Informatics, Science, English and Mathematics.
  • Relatively easy compared to IAIS.
  • Any other information??
  • Offered in most traditional Indian schools. CBSE schools.

 

NTSE exam (National Talent Science Exam by Unified Council)

  • http://www.unifiedcouncil.com/what_is_nstse.aspx
  • Grades 2-12
  • Our school is taking on Jan 31, 2010
  • Again offered by most traditional schools
  • Devised by the Unified council (academic experts from different fields in India and abroad).
  • In the 2nd and 3rd grade, they are on science and mathematics. Later more specialized subjects like chemistry, biology, physics, General Knowledge are offered.
  • Traditionally, supposed to be good  foundation for other tests offered after school: Exams like IIT-JEE, AIEEE, AFMC, AIIMS, GRE, GMAT, CAT etc.

Some other popular tests out of India:

(Not meant for Indians but can be used as practice tests for our kids)

STAR Test in California

  • Through friends, have also got exposed to the STAR test offered by the California state in the U.S.
  • Grade 2-12
  • You can check out the sample questions at http://www.thesmartbean.com/category/library/library-assessment-tests/library-assessment-california/?r_sortby=highest_rated&r_orderby=desc
  • Good practice.
  • Relatively simple (me thinks).

MCAS in Masschsetts

  • http://www.doe.mass.edu/

Other tests? Please share...

What do you think?

 What do you all think about these competitive tests or diagnostic tests for young kids—1st to grades 5?

 Do you know they can harm, why do them, or help?

So far my thinking is that to some extent they can help expose your child and you to different approach to learning and thinking (lacking in the traditional set-up). Also prepare for the future real-world. We also use the sample tests in lieu of academic practice workbooks. As long as they do not hinder any original thinking and enthusiasm the kids have.

 

What say you folks? Also, other tips, information, other fun practice sample tests that you know of. Please share the wealth... ;-)

 

Tags: iais, macmillan's, south of wales, olympiad, NTSE, Asset test, competitive tests, standardised tests
 

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Anthi (India) Feb 20, 2013 11:26 AM  
Great work Mango-mama.

In which school are your kids in Bangalore?
 
sharanyar (India) Aug 15, 2012 10:11 PM  
Thanks so much, this post was really helpful. I am a first time teacher and this consolidated all the important exams in one place.
 
monicat (India) Jul 12, 2012 11:47 AM  
There is a math program that a friend told me about that can prepare for Olympiad, IAIS. Her child is studying with them. Their name is Vizivo Math. The problems they cover seem to be very similar to the Olympiad - like the logical problems in these exams that we do not find in school books. My friend lives in Marathahalli and the classes are being offered there. Not sure about other locations though. Their website is www.vizivomath.com
 
roses (United States) Jun 19, 2010 10:50 PM  
Hi Mickey,
Good to hear from you on the NTSE front. I received it till my B.Sc: a small amount but a prestigeous one!
Wow, interesting to hear that children are preparing for it from Class 6 onwards. I believe your daughter will qualify as long as she is doing well in school and is a good student. As one of the moms have posted on the boards that the drive has to come from within..we can only bring the horse to the water.
tty on the board!
 
mickey (India) Jun 19, 2010 1:47 PM  
Hey Roses, Its gr8 to know that you have been awarded NTSE scholarship..Congrats...Did you get it till your PG ?
Your little one has long way to go to write NTSE !!

Are u not in Delhi now ?

There is a tough competition for NTSE now. Children are preparing for NTSE from class 6 onwards !

rgds,
mickey
 
roses (United States) Jun 18, 2010 1:38 AM  
Mickey: Thanks for clarifying on the NTSE scholarship! I had the time to read (at leisure) through the posts this morning and was relieved to find that NTSE is for higher classes (class 8 now ...my days class 10) rather than class 2 onwards. I went to bed a little worried as a mom, desperately wanting to expose my little one to the Indian competition in some way so that he was geared to it earlier than anticipated :0!
Mango Mama: A great list and a very good reference point. If I were you I'd gear my kid for all the competition. Teach him to go head-on but will step back when it would come to putting any pressure on him....very similar to your drift. I know with a good foundation they'll do well regardless!
 
roses (United States) Jun 17, 2010 10:25 AM  
Ok as an NTSE'er (or someone who was awarded the scholarship) and an Olympiad scholar I found these two lay a very good foundation for future competitive exams which again I managed to crack without the assistance of any special class (or tutorials as they were called during my days). But they do have a testing pattern and a very good one. I was not aware that these days the kids are starting out that young on these but feel a child if equipped with good diagnostic capabilities should be able to perform regardless.
Reading through the posts I am getting nostalgic about the competition that existed in India...wish I could get my little one (19 month-old) exposed to the fun! When I look back I have a happy feeling about the small wins (especially because they were achieved without any pressure from parents- it was totally self inflicted) but I recall how sick I used to be the day before the tests/exams.
 
mickey (India) Jun 14, 2010 1:49 PM  
Hi Mango Mama,
Very well written and informative. Just came across it. Yes, these tests esp. IAIS and ASSET are very good as they are application oriented. My daughter has got distinction and merit certificates too in these exams. These exams test conceptual and analytical skills of the child. There is no fixed preparation required as such.

If you don't mind, i would like u make a small correction about NTSE. NTSE (National Talent Search Examination)is offered by NCERT.(National Council of Educational Research and Training). NCERT is an apex resource organization set up by the Government of India. NTSE (exam)is very tough and prestigious too as the financial assistance is given to the selected students till Ph.D. NTSE is only for class 8 students and is conducted in the month of Nov whereas NSTSE offered by Unified Council is for students from class 2 to 12 conducted on the last Sunday of Jan every year.

NTSE from NCERT honours and helps talented students by providing financial assistance in the form of a monthly scholarship. For the courses in Basic Sciences, Social Sciences and Commerce, this assistance is provided up to Ph.D. level. For professional courses like Engineering, Medicine, Management and Law this assistance is given only up to Post Graduation.

Unified council is a private organization (Hyd based)which offers NSTSE.(National Level Science Talent Search Examination)
Their test comprises of 90 questions of science, maths and 10 questions of GK which is very much easier than NTSE. There is no life long scholarship offered. Only a few gifts to toppers every year.

NTSE which is conducted by the NCERT(Govt of India)
has two 2 papers MAT (Mental Ability Test) and SAT.
MAT comprises of two sections Verbal and Non Verbal.

SAT(Scholastic Ability Test) comprises of 7 sections(from Section A to Section G) covering Physics,Chemistry,Biology,History,Geography,Civics and Maths. This test is for only class 8 students ,so preparation should start right from class 6 or 7.

NSTSE (Unified Council) can be written by students from classes 2 to 12. By writing NSTSE, students are preparing themselves to get into this competitive world.

All these exams/tests will remove the fear in our children to face competitive exams in near future and make them well equipped. It will keep up their competitive spirit too. Whether they get a good score or not, we should encourage them to write irrespective of their result/grades.

Rgds,
Mickey
 
bandaru (India) Jun 14, 2010 11:54 AM  
loads of information,
thank u
 
saam (India) Jan 27, 2010 7:49 AM  
hey thx..
will check it out.
Do keep writing..
 
mango_mama (India) Jan 21, 2010 3:51 PM  
Hi Saam,

For the Science Olympiads, the main ones (not mentioned in the blog though since this is new to me too) try http://soinc.org/

For the Informatics Olympiads, as mentioned in the blog check out http://www.silverzone.com

Good luck!
 
saam (India) Jan 21, 2010 2:20 PM  
hey hi
came across ur blog recently...It's a nice compilation..good info.hey currently I am outside India can u tell me if thr is any way to get olympiad sample papers online?..My daughter is in 2nd grade appearing for the NTSE exam.on 31st.
 
mango_mama (India) Nov 25, 2009 4:17 PM  
Apar: Thnx will surely check em out.

ML: Also, when schools offer these tests, they are conducted in the school itself.

If a school does not offer, few parents make kids appear independently.

I personally would be happy with one competitive test for my kids and that too for the exposure to a different way of learning and for their self and NOT for competition as such.
 
apar_sai (India) Nov 25, 2009 3:54 PM  
Hi,

check - http://eduhealfoundation.org - for sample-papers/activity-sheets for all ages(class 1-12), all 5 National Olympiads.



Cheers!
 
mango_mama (India) Nov 25, 2009 12:23 PM  
Hi ML,

I do not think a list exists. But it sure would be useful. Different schools offer different tests. I personal opinion is that Asset and IAIS/Macmillan are really good and encourage conceptual and creative thinking vs. memorization. So I would definitely want my kids to be exposed to one of these and would prefer a school that offers one of these. For example, NAFL offers Macmillan/IAIS but not Asset. Gear intl offers Asset...

But we can ask this separate question in the discussions "Which competitive test does your school offer." or something...
 
ML (India) Nov 25, 2009 10:21 AM  
hi mango_mama,

where would i be able to check the list of schools in bangalore who send students for these competitive exams?

meghana
 
MeeraS (India) Sep 10, 2009 12:23 PM  
hello mango mama

really very exiciting to see your compilation.,

actually, my son who is in 2nd std is appearing for the national cyber olympiad today (preliminary level). I was searching all over for any sample papers but couldn't find anything suitable., anyhow i can use these websites for just training him. thanks for providing these details.,

These kind of tests just give our child a broader approach or to say out of box thinking which doesn't happen quite often with the school assessements.,

Main point, unless we do not pressurize them it is a good way of exposing our children so that we allow them to think on their own and try to do things differently.

Meera
 
mango_mama (India) Sep 10, 2009 9:40 AM  
ooops
the thread is at http://www.parentree.in/group-15/Parents-of-6-to-11-year-olds-.html
 
mango_mama (India) Sep 10, 2009 9:39 AM  
Apar Sai,

Btw, long time no hear. ;-)

It is uncanny. Just this morning I was thinking about Sanskrit and Vedic Math for kids.

Can you please share these details. Btw, I started a new thread where you can comment on...

ttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/neanderthals/dig.html

Thanks!
 
apar_sai (India) Sep 10, 2009 8:53 AM  
Hello,

Very useful compilation. I love the way you extract the gist out of anything. Have you tried writing blurbs :)?

My son is in 2nd std.

On a sorta related topic, I'm steering off Abacus/ALOHA. I'm attending on online course on Vedic Maths by AOL (Art of Living). I'm loving it. I hope to introduce it to my son gradually.
 
Bonnie (India) Sep 9, 2009 1:33 AM  
Bravo mango_mama...for all the compilation..Frankly, my daughter has been taking these tests for 4 yrs now, and I always felt that I couldnt do any preparation for it...that it was the child's own learning process and experience that they would use in the exam...I'm talking about the IAIS. But your insight has made me think and I will dwell more now on the sample papers of which I have a plenty as I have saved all of them from my daughter's previous years tests.
 
mango_mama (India) Sep 7, 2009 1:15 PM  
Coolily,

Btw, STAR is only for California schools. But you can use these as practice worksheets. :-)

I think, perhaps you can let your daughter do one or two of these tests instead of all. And the competition is really with herself. She should try and do her best.

In fact while doing IAIS practice tests, most times I would not even calculate her score. To avoid the unncessary stress.

What I like the best is exposing them to this new pattern of questions and this "alternative" way of learning.

Thoughts?
 
Coolily (India) Sep 7, 2009 12:34 PM  
Thanks Mango Mama.I was looking to compile this list and you did just that. I was not aware of STAR and NTSE. Thanks for that.
After going through the preparation and execution of the IAIS exam, I hardly bother about the actual lessons taught in school. What matters to me is that my daughter is able to solve the IAIS papers.
This was mainly possible because she is still in 3rd grade and has only worksheets for tests. From 4th grade onwards,
she is going to have regular unit tests for which she will have to prepare as well. So I am wondering if it is going to be so much fun without having enough time. What I have done to get around that is I have already ordered 4th grade papers and plan to do them little at at a time.
None of these tests are compulsory in her school. So there is not enough stress given to attend these.
I am looking for more info about how to take them up personally. But then will I be stressing her out about being competitive too soon? Is it really as much fun for her as I feel so?
Mridula